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TELECOM Digest Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:50:00 EST Volume 24 : Issue 500 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Usenet Search Engine Preps Porn for iPod (Adam Pasick) Date Set For Da Vinci Code Plagiarism Trial (Reuters News Wire) Grandpa Gets Sued Over Grandson's Downloads from Net (Milwaukee Journal) AOL Buys Circuit City's Music Now (Derek Caney) Google Offers Index of Public Domain Works (Associated Press News Wire) Comcast Reports Third Quarter 2005 Results (Monty Solomon) Cellular-News for Thursday 3rd November 2005 (Cellular-News) Report: DSL Gaining Fast on Cable (USTA Daily Lead) ECC Provides Solutions for Wireless in the Enterprise (Lisa Reyes) Re: Old Chicago Numbering (Jim Stewart) Re: Remote Call Forwarding (Brad Houser) Re: Verizon FIOS, DSL; Possible Cancellation Fees (jmeissen@aracnet.com) Re: Cingular GO Phone Questions (Joseph) Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. Articles may be used in other journals or newsgroups, provided the writer's name and the Digest are included in the fair use quote. By using -any name or email address- included herein for -any- reason other than responding to an article herein, you agree to pay a hundred dollars to the recipients of the email. =========================== Addresses herein are not to be added to any mailing list, nor to be sold or given away without explicit written consent. Chain letters, viruses, porn, spam, and miscellaneous junk are definitely unwelcome. We must fight spam for the same reason we fight crime: not because we are naive enough to believe that we will ever stamp it out, but because we do not want the kind of world that results when no one stands against crime. Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam Pasick <reuters@telecom-digest.org> Subject: Usenet Search Engine Preps Porn for Video iPod Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:00:41 -0600 By Adam Pasick It may not be quite what Steve Jobs had in mind, but an online search engine called Guba is set to offer vast amounts of pornography and other video files, specifically tailored for Apple's new iPods. Guba is a subscription-only search engine that culls video files from the Usenet newsgroups, a huge repository of online content -- much of it mostly adult, pirated, or both. Beginning this month, Guba will convert video files from Usenet into the format used by the iPod, known as H.264. Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs launched the video-enabled iPod last month along with deals to sell downloadable music videos and TV shows. Although Guba offers up a wide variety of video, from the satirical news program "The Daily Show" to Japanese animation, its "erotica" section is likely to be the biggest draw. "We can kid ourselves, but in the end it's probably porn that people want," said Guba Chief Executive Thomas McInerney. He noted that the site offers a "safe mode" to filter out adult content, but does not expect that filter to be used very much. "People do not care about the discussion, resesearch or news groups, it is porn they expect to get from Usenet." Usenet predates the World Wide Web by more than a decade, and it has developed alongside more mainstream file-sharing networks like Kazaa and BitTorrent. Guba specifically searches through Usenet's multimedia content, which is not indexed by popular search engines such as Yahoo or Google. It also converts video into standard formats, and lets users stream small versions from its Web site. At a time when movie studios are hyper-vigilant about online piracy, Guba's easily accessible videos could raise hackles among Hollywood's content owners. Guba counters that it will strictly abide by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which requires search engines to take down any content upon request of the copyright holder. It has also blocked access to music files and videos longer than 70 minutes. McInerney said Guba is blocking MP3 music files "because there has been so much litigation about music, and the RIAA (Recording Industry of America) has been so aggressive about it." However, Guba does offer TV files, because "the TV guys seem to understand the Internet ... they seem to be the next industry after music to go online," McInerney said. A search of Guba revealed a wide range of TV shows, including Disney's "Lost" and "Desperate Housewives," which are both sold online at Apple's iTunes Music Store. McInerney said that Guba, which charges $14.95 per month, is profitable and has about 15 employees. "What we'd really like to do, and what we'll need to do, is partner with a large content company," he said. "They're getting wise to the Internet, and they're understanding that they can't litigate it away." Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. ------------------------------ From: Reuters News Wire <reuters@telecom-digest.org> Subject: Date Set for Da Vinci Code Plagiarism Trial Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:03:29 -0600 Two historians are suing the publishers of Dan Brown's best-selling religious thriller "The Da Vinci Code" in a case which lawyers said on Thursday was due to start early next year. Richard Leigh and Michael Baigent are suing Random House for lifting "the whole architecture" of the research that went into their 1982 non-fiction book "The Holy Blood, and the Holy Grail." Lawyers on both sides of the case met on Thursday to thrash out technical details, and said a trial date had been set for February 27. They would not comment on how the trial might affect sales of the hugely successful novel or the distribution of a major Hollywood adaptation which Sony Pictures plans to release in May next year. Random House said a "substantial" part of the claim by Baigent and Leigh had been dropped as a result of Thursday's discussions, and added in a statement: "Random House is delighted with this result, which reinforces its long-held contention that this is a claim without merit." A spokeswoman for Leigh said he still intended to pursue his claim against the publishers of Brown's book, which has 36 million copies in print worldwide and has upset Catholics for suggesting Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a child by her. The same theory is put forward in The Holy Blood, and the Holy Grail. Commentators have pointed out that a major character in Dan Brown's book, Sir Leigh Teabing, has a name that is an anagram of Leigh and Baigent. A third author of the 1982 book, Henry Lincoln, has decided to stay out of the action. Ironically, a special hardback, illustrated version of their book, called Holy Blood, Holy Grail has just been reissued by none other than Random House. In August, Brown won a court ruling against another writer, Lewis Perdue, who claimed The Da Vinci Code copied elements of two of his novels, "Daughter of God" and "The Da Vinci Legacy." Perdue had sought $150 million in damages and asked the court to block distribution of the book and the movie adaptation, which features Tom Hanks alongside French actress Audrey Tautou. Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. ------------------------------ From: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal <mjs@telecom-digest.org> Subject: Grandpa Gets Sued Over Grandson's Downloads From Net Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:02:21 -0600 A 67-year-old man who says he doesn't even like watching movies has been sued by the film industry for copyright infringement after a grandson of his downloaded four movies on the family computer. The Motion Picture Association of America filed a federal lawsuit Tuesday against Fred Lawrence of Racine, seeking as much as $600,000 in damages for downloading four movies over the Internet file-sharing service iMesh. The suit was filed after Lawrence refused a March offer to settle the matter by paying $4,000. "First of all, like I say, I guess I'd have to plead being naive about the whole thing," he said. "I personally didn't do it, and I wouldn't do it. But I don't think it was anything but an innocent mistake my grandson made." Lawrence said his grandson, who was then 12, downloaded "The Incredibles," "I, Robot," "The Grudge," and "The Forgotten" in December, without knowing it was illegal to do so. The Racine man said his grandson downloaded the movies out of curiosity, and deleted the computer files immediately. The family already owned three of the four titles on DVD, he said. "I can see where they wouldn't want this to happen, but when you get up around $4,000 ... I don't have that kind of money," Lawrence said. "I never was and never will be a wealthy person." Kori Bernards, vice president of corporate communications for MPAA, said the movie industry wants people to understand the consequences of Internet piracy. She said the problem is the movies that were downloaded were then available to thousands of other users on the iMesh network. "Basically what you are doing when you use peer-to-peer software is you are offering someone else's product that they own to thousands of other people for free, and it's not fair," Bernards said. Illegal downloading costs the movie industry an estimated $5.4 billion a year, she said. Information from: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, http://www.jsonline.com Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. For more headlines and stories from Associated Press please check out http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/AP.html ------------------------------ From: Derek Caney <reuters@telecom-digest.org> Subject: AOL Buys Circuit City's Music Now Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 11:59:43 -0600 By Derek Caney AOL said on Thursday it bought Circuit City Stores Inc.'s digital music subscription service MusicNow LLC, a move that thrusts Time Warner Inc.'s Internet unit into competition with RealNetworks, Yahoo, Napster and other subscription services. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed, but a source familiar with the matter said AOL paid less than $25 million. MusicNow will offer downloads at 99 cents each, comparable to iTunes, and it will offer monthly subscriptions for $9.95 for unlimited downloads or streaming, which refers to listening to music online without downloading it. For an additional $5 a month, listeners can download songs to a compatible digital music player. RealNetworks Inc's Rhapsody subscription service is $9.99 a month. Napster sells its service for $9.99 a month. Yahoo's service is $6.99 a month, or $4.99 a month if one buys a 12-month subscription. Last month, CNET reported that Yahoo was raising its price to $11.99 a month for users who want to download music to digital music players. AOL currently has a partnership with Apple Computer Inc.'s iTunes, by far the largest online music service. But that partnership is aimed at members of AOL's Internet service. The MusicNow service is available to any Internet user through AOL's Web site. The move reflects AOL's focus on providing services through its Web site rather than solely to its own membership. The strategy allows AOL to build its online advertising revenue at AOL.com and derive subscription revenue from the music service. MusicNow also allows AOL to reach music listeners who don't own Apple's iPods, which are only compatible with iTunes and no other online service. Conversely, iTunes users can only download songs to iPods. "AOL's partnership with iTunes is strong, has been fruitful for both companies, and will continue," said AOL spokesman Nicholas Graham. AOL said the agreement was signed on September 27th and closed early this week. Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. ------------------------------ From: Associated Press News Wire <ap@telecom-digest.org> Subject: Google Offers Index of Public Domain Works Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:01:17 -0600 Google Inc.'s Internet-leading search engine on Thursday will begin serving up the entire contents of books and government documents that aren't entangled in a copyright battle over how much material can be scanned and indexed from five major libraries. The list of Google's so-called "public domain" works -- volumes no longer protected by copyright -- include Henry James novels, Civil War histories, Congressional acts and biographies of wealthy New Yorkers. Google said the material, available at http://www.print.google.com, represents the first large batch of public domain books and documents to be indexed in its search engine since the Mountain View-based company announced an ambitious library-scanning project late last year. The program is designed to make more library material available through a few clicks of a computer mouse and attract more people to click on the highly profitable ads that Google displays on its Web site. During the next several years, Google wants to create digital versions of millions of books stacked in the New York Public Library and four university libraries -- Stanford, Harvard, Michigan and Oxford. Google declined to disclose how many books have been scanned from the libraries so far. The project is expected to require years to complete. But a bitter copyright dispute is threatening to crimp Google's plans. The Authors Guild and five major publishers are suing to prevent Google from scanning copyrighted material in the libraries without explicit permission. Because it plans to show only snippets from copyrighted books, Google argues its scanning project constitutes "fair use" of the material. Google postponed the scanning of copyrighted books in August to give writers and publishers more time to opt out of the program. The scanning of copyrighted material resumed this week, with an emphasis on books no longer in print. On the Web: http://www.google.com Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. NOTE: For more telecom/internet/networking/computer news from the daily media, check out our feature 'Telecom Digest Extra' each day at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/more-news.html . Hundreds of new articles daily. See additional Associated Press headlines at http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/newstoday.html (and) http://telecom-digest.org/td-extra/TDNewsradio.html [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I would also call your attention to a satirical work by Lauren Weinstein http://vortex.com/lauren which deals with the subject of Google's book scanning project here in our Digest, V24_#499 from Wednesday, March 2, 2005. (Last Laugh! Google Reality Reset.) PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 07:29:57 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty@roscom.com> Subject: Comcast Reports Third Quarter 2005 Results Cable Revenue Increased 9.8% to $5.3 Billion Cable Operating Income Increased 27.1% to $948 Million Cable Operating Cash Flow Increased 13.9% to $2.1 Billion Growth in New Services Continues Added 710,000 Revenue Generating Units in the Quarter High-Speed Internet Service Revenue Increased 26% To Reach $1 Billion for the Quarter Invested $1 Billion in its Stock during the Quarter PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Comcast Corporation (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) today reported results for the quarter ended September 30, 2005. Comcast will discuss third quarter results on a conference call and webcast today at 8:30 AM Eastern Time. A live broadcast of the conference call will be available on the investor relations website at http://www.cmcsa.com and http://www.cmcsk.com . - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=52817008 ------------------------------ Subject: Cellular-News for Thursday 3rd November 2005 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 07:42:04 -0600 From: Cellular-News <dailydigest@cellular-news-mail.com> Cellular-News - http://www.cellular-news.com Top ten" in mobile phone sales in Telia stores in October http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14672.php SonyEricsson's W800i Walkman music mobile was one of the newcomers among the best-selling phones in Telia stores in October, entering the list directly in third place. As in September, first place was captured by Nokia.... Yet More Handsets from Nokia http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14671.php Nokia has extended its N series multimedia range to include three new devices: the Nokia N92 (the world's first mobile device with a built-in DVB-H receiver), the Nokia N71 and the Nokia N80. With these new devices consumers can wirelessly watch mobi... Top 10 Global Wireless Predictions for 2006 http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14670.php inCode has released its Top 10 Global Wireless Predictions for 2006. The Predictions identify key market changes for the coming year, including: fierce competition that will leave only five handset manufacturers standing, new business models enabled ... French Operator Finds MMS Popular for Email Services http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14669.php Critical Path says that the French GSM network operator, SFR has reached 150,000 MMS Mail subscribers in just four months since the launch of the new consumer mobile email service this summer. Despite market research indicating that consumers want mo... Indoor 3G Coverage Expansion http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14668.php Arqiva's Wireless Solutions group has been chosen by Hutchison 3G UK to utilise its 3G InBuilding antenna solution in three key retail locations. The ten-year deal with Capital Shopping Centres sees Eldon Square, the Victoria Centre and Lakeside bein... Ericsson may help Russia's VimpelCom to buy URS http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14667.php Russia's second-largest mobile operator VimpelCom has worked out a scheme, under which Sweden's telecommunications equipment producer Ericsson would pay part of the sum necessary to purchase Ukrainian Radiosystems mobile operator (URS), Vedomosti b... Thirteen Pre-qualify For Turkey's Telsim Sale http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14666.php The Turkish Saving Deposits Insurance Fund (TMSF) Wednesday said thirteen companies pre-qualified for the sale of GSM operator Telsim Mobil Telekomunikasyon (TMTKM.YY), the Ihlas News Agency, or IHA, reported. ... Nortel Reduces Third-quarter Loss http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14665.php Nortel Networks on Wednesday posted a narrower third-quarter loss as the Canadian vendor sold more wireless and next-generation networking gear. ... UPDATE: Sprint Nextel To Join Forces With Cable Giants http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14664.php group of major cable companies said Wednesday they will offer wireless-phone service in partnership with Sprint Nextel Corp. in a broad-reaching technology deal that could open up a new front in the telecommunications wars. ... Russia's Duma OKs 1st reading of bill seeking caller-pays principle http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14663.php Russia's lower house of parliament State Duma has approved Wednesday the first reading of a draft amendment to the law on communications seeking to introduce the Calling Party Pays (CPP) principle. ... Ukrainian MVNO Privat: Mobile's user base up to 30,000 http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14662.php The subscriber base of Ukrainian mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) Privat:Mobile rose to about 30,000 people as of November 1 from about 15,000 people as of June 1, a spokesman for Ukraine's Privatbank told Prime-Tass on Wednesday. ... Vodafone Not Involved In TDC Bid With Swisscom - Source http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14661.php Vodafone Group PLC, the U.K. mobile telecommunications company, isn't involved in a joint bid for Danish TDC AS with Swisscom SA, a source familiar with the situation told Dow Jones Newswires Wednesday. ... UPDATE: O2 Drops After Deutsche Telekom Says It Won't Bid http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14660.php Shares of O2 PLC dropped as much as 6% in London Wednesday after Germany's Deutsche Telekom AG said it won't challenge Telefonica's $31.5 billion agreed cash offer for the British mobile operator. ... Deutsche Telekom Says Won't Counterbid For 02 PLC http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14659.php Deutsche Telekom AG won't bid against Telefonica SA's takeover offer for U.K.-based mobile-telecommunications operator O2 PLC, news wire Reuters reported Wednesday, quoting Deutsche Telekom Finance Director Karl-Gerhard Eick. ... Ericsson Signs 3G Pact Extension With Danish TDC Mobil http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14658.php Danish operator TDC Mobil, a unit of TDC A/S, has extended a contract it originally signed with Telefon AB L.M. Ericsson in 2002, the Swedish telecommunications equipment maker said Wednesday. ... Ericsson To Supply Push E-Mail To Jordanian Operator http://www.cellular-news.com/story/14657.php Swedish telecommunications company Telefon AB LM Ericsson Wednesday said it has received a contract from Jordanian operator MobileCom to supply its push email solution, Ericsson Mobile Organizer. ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:27:44 EST From: USTelecom dailyLead <ustelecom@dailylead.com> Subject: Report: DSL Gaining Fast on Cable USTelecom dailyLead November 3, 2005 http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/xtyAatagCwgLnRftPg TODAY'S HEADLINES NEWS OF THE DAY * Report: DSL gaining fast on cable BUSINESS & INDUSTRY WATCH * Analysis: MSOs' joint venture with Sprint Nextel takes convergence to next level * Report: S-A hires banks for possible asset sale * Microsoft buys VoIP software startup * Analysis: Vonage faces uncertainty as it considers options * Cisco bug makes Wi-Fi nets vulnerable * P2P network goes legit * MCI, Qualcomm, Nortel, Comcast report earnings USTELECOM SPOTLIGHT * You're getting USTelecom dailyLead, but are you missing part of the story? TECHNOLOGY TRENDS * Satellite phones experience resurgence * Newcomer brings Wi-Fi to quiet village REGULATORY & LEGISLATIVE * Senate committee advances VoIP 911 bill * Video new focus of copyright battle Follow the link below to read quick summaries of these stories and others. http://r.smartbrief.com/resp/xtyAatagCwgLnRftPg ------------------------------ From: Lisa Reyes <forums_@iec-mail.org> Subject: ECC Provides Solutions for Wireless in the Enterprise Date: Thu, 3 NOV 2005 10:26:43 -0600 Reply-To: lreyes@iec.org Contact: Lisa Reyes Phone: +1-312-559-3325 E-Mail: mailto:lreyes@iec.org ECC Provides Solutions for Wireless in the Enterprise: Platforms for Mobile Applications CHICAGO November 2, 2005 The Enterprise Communications Consortium (ECC) presents the most current wireless solutions for business in its 'Wireless in the Enterprise: Platforms for Mobile Applications' on November 17 at Harry Caray's Restaurant at 33 West Kinzie Street in Chicago. Sharing their knowledge, experience, and expertise, key speakers include Mr. Tim Gore, Director, Wi-Fi Solution Development, Lucent Worldwide Services; Mr. Tony Hylton, Consultant and Chairman, Technology and Infrastructure Sub-Committee, Downtown Development Strategy; and Mr. David Dombrowski, Director, Business Development, Enterprise Mobility, Motorola. The one-day conference will help small businesses cut operations costs, increase profit margin, gain in employee productivity, and more. Sessions will help an enterprise realize the value of ubiquitous and continuous access to their business applications while roaming around the corporate LAN/WLAN and the public Wi-Fi hot spots, Wi-Fi mesh networks, or 2.5/3G cellular data networks. The morning session, led by Mr. Gore, includes perspectives from Ecutel, NetMotion, and others. They will assist business owners in comparing the potential productivity benefits of Wi-Fi solutions against security, quality of service, and cost concerns. This will be followed by a keynote address by Mr. Hylton, who will review ongoing state and federal legislative activities regarding wireless deployment. Finally, the event will conclude with an afternoon panel, chaired by Mr. Dombrowski, which will include Avaya, Proxim, and others in a session addressing the next step in converging convergence. Since new technology has emerged, the next step in convergence creates an opportunity for enterprises to address wireless communications needs. The session will discuss the combination of three powerful technologies; WLAN, VoIP, and cellular into a seamless, contiguous, wireless network enabling enterprises to reduce communications costs, improve efficiencies, and offer new and extended capabilities. Business owners, managers, and interested parties can still register at https://www.enterprisecc.org/events/november_05/reg_personal.asp or by calling +1-312-559-4645. The mission of the ECC focuses on providing IT infrastructure managers and executives at commercial, academic, and government end-user organizations with multifaceted educational opportunities to identify key communications issues, trends, technologies, and resources central to the current and future success of member organizations. The International Engineering Consortium (IEC) manages the activities of the ECC. For more information, visit http://www.enterprisecc.org or contact Lisa Reyes at +1-312-559-3325 or mailto:lreyes@iec.org. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:25:38 -0800 From: Jim Stewart <jstewart@jkmicro.com> Reply-To: jstewart@jkmicro.com Organization: http://www.jkmicro.com Subject: Re: Old Chicago Numbering >> Anyone traveling on Interstate 90 through Washington might be >> interested in stopping at the telephone museum in Cle Elum. It's in >> the orginal manual exchange building and it was the labor of one local >> woman to preserve as much of the manual system and equipment as >> possible. > Cle Elum also did a stand in for Cicely, Alaska in the CBS series > Northern Exposure! Northern Exposure's Cicely was actually shot in Roslyn, 2 miles east of Cle Elum. ------------------------------ From: Brad Houser <bradDOThouser@intel.com> Subject: Re: Remote Call Forwarding Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:47:28 -0800 Organization: Intel Corporation Reply-To: bradDOThouser@intel.com On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:39:13 EST, Nhfloral@aol.com wrote: > You find that two businesses charge an hourly fee of $150 per hour, > with a $5 per mile service fee. One savvy business charges $119 per > hour, plus $5 per mile service fee. Who are you going to call, being a > reasonable consumer? (The Federal Trade Commission examines > information from the viewpoint of a reasonable consumer, when > determining if deception has occurred.) If you choose business #2 who > charges the lowest hourly fee ... You just got screwed. LOL They > fooled you, huh? Were you decieved? Caveat Emptor. If you are going to pay mileage it would not be unreasonable to ask how many miles from where you are to my place. At $5 a mile, that $31 difference would be covered in only 6.2 miles. Brad Houser [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: You see, another thing which made nhfloral's comparison to me (here in Independence) invalid in this case was that although I do not personally drive a car, so would have no need for mechanical services, I honestly have to wonder if I do not live in the midst of a giant car garage here; I am forever seeing the hillbillies who live across the alley and down a few doors out in their own garage or backyard working on their own or someone else's car; 'jumping' the battery to get it started or doing other repairs. So while it is _not impossible_ that someone with car troubles could wind up calling some distant auto mechanic to come rescue them it is quite unlikely. Furthermore, there are a few young guys here in town who are part of a 'Good Samaritan' group who, on call from the Montgomery County Sheriff accompany the sheriff in their own truck to pour a gallon of gas into a car which ran out anywhere in our county (for intance Highway 77 or 169) with a cellphone and other simple supplies (can of oil, etc). They also tow vehicles back into town to one of the service stations. A nice bunch of young kids. A summer ago, a friend and I were riding back into town from a small village near Coffeyville, called Tyro, KS (population of Tyro is all of 250 people). On the 'Tyro cutoff', a very dark, very narrow two lane road which runs from Highway 77 south ten miles through Tyro and on to the Oklahoma border, we passed a older lady with a young child sitting on the side of the road. My friend and I decided to check it out, the lady said her car had either overheated or had gasoline vapor lock, I forget which. I offered her my cell phone but she had no one to call; so I wound up calling the sheriff for her. We waited there with her and her kid; about 20-25 minutes later here came a Sheriff Deputy to talk to her. About the same time he pulled up, a truck came up with two guys (both older teenagers, about 18-19) pulled up as well. They get out of their truck, go and begin examining her engine, etc. In the back of the litle truck they carry a few gallons of water, some oil and gasoline (but very little! too dangerous to carry much of it back there.) The sheriff talked to the lady, the guys got her car restarted. I think -- not sure -- they are called 'Good Samaritans' and are volunteers helping with radio calls from the Sheriff. Small, rural areas are nice in that way. Coincidentally, my friend who had always been opposed to cell phones until that time ("they are used by people who want to think they are important") observed all this closely. Next time I went out riding with him I notice he had installed a cell phone in his car, something he _never_ would have done even six months earlier. PAT] ------------------------------ From: jmeissen@aracnet.com Subject: Re: Verizon FIOS, DSL, and Possible Cancellation Fees Date: 3 Nov 2005 01:48:54 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com In article <telecom24.499.14@telecom-digest.org>, <jeremyeastburn@gmail.com> wrote: > I currently am in the middle of a 1 year contract with Verizon DSL. I > want to order Verizon FIOS but am worried about getting hit with the > cancellation fee. I spoke with a DSL rep (FIOS was busy all day and I > couldn't get through) and they said I could possibly have to pay the > cancellation fee. My take is that I am upgrading my Verizon DSL > service to Verizon FIOS service. I will be paying more money each > month for FIOS so why would they want to hit me with a cancellation > fee when I am actually upgrading. Who is your ISP? If you are currently with Verizon Online and the FIOS is with Verizon Online (you have no choice about that, actually), then I would think it's not a problem. John Meissen jmeissen@aracnet.com ------------------------------ From: Joseph <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Cingular GO Phone Questions Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 07:18:49 -0800 Reply-To: JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com On 1 Nov 2005 23:21:10 -0800, apngss@yahoo.com wrote: > Anyone using Cingular GO phone > http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/gophone/index.jsp > or have that experience? I have couple questions: > 1) Does "Go Phone" have the same reception strength as regular Cingular > phone? In terms of reception, does it make any differences? Is "Go > Phone" using GSM? I'm not entirely sure of the terms of service for Go Phone, but my guess is that regular Cingular reception is identical to that of a tradtional monthly subscriber. The difference may be when you are out of the native cingular area. If you are out of the Cingular area you may not have any service or you may pay a considerable amount to roam on another carrier's system *if* a roaming agreement is in place. If no roaming agreement is in place you'll only have access to emergency (911) service. > 2) Do we need to pay tax and other surcharges for "Go Phone"? I don't > use phone too much, plus I don't like the regular phone needs to pay > almost $9 for the tax and other surcharges. I've not bought Cingular refill cards but there *may* be local sales tax on the amount of the card. Any other "surcharges" are already included (USF, 911 fees, county/city/fed taxes etc.) Other than that you will not pay any other taxes. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: I have noticed here that Cingular Wireless prepaid phones (although I used to have AT&T prepaid until they were bought out) is different than 'regular' service. Here in our town, they are still going with the mechanics of AT&T Wireless (for prepaid) and treating us like 'roamers' because that is what AT&T did with us. No matter I guess, since it is 25 cents per minute for either local or roaming on Cingular Prepaid service here. PAT] ------------------------------ TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly to telecomm- unications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of networks such as Compuserve and America On Line, Yahoo Groups, and other forums. It is also gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup 'comp.dcom.telecom'. TELECOM Digest is a not-for-profit, mostly non-commercial educational service offered to the Internet by Patrick Townson. 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