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TELECOM Digest Wed, 1 Jun 2005 01:52:00 EDT Volume 24 : Issue 242 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson Neat New Satellite Map Program (TELECOM Digest Editor) Octothorpe (Julian Thomas) RSS Feed (K&S OBrien) Fiserv Buys MyCOOP Continuity Planning Software (distribution@eworld) Re: 25 cps Power, was: Tie Lines was Re: Foreign Exchange Line (Coxwell) Re: 25 cps Power, was: Tie Lines was Re: Foreign Exchange Line (Wesrock) Re: 25 cps Power, was: Tie Lines was Re: Foreign Exchange Line (Bonomi) Re: 25 Hz Power Re: Tie Lines was Re: Foreign Exchange Lines (Ben Bass) Re: Do Not do Business With Sprint PCS ! (Steven Lichter) Re: What Happened to Channel 1 (Paul Coxwell) Re: Will My Cingular SIM Card Work in Another Brand of Phone? (I Beard) Re: Schools Prohibit Personal E-mail Sites (Thomas A. Horsley) Telecom and VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) Digest for the Internet. All contents here are copyrighted by Patrick Townson and the individual writers/correspondents. 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Geoffrey Welsh =========================== See the bottom of this issue for subscription and archive details and the name of our lawyer; other stuff of interest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Neat New Satellite Map Program Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 00:38:02 EDT From: ptownson@massis.lcs.mit.edu (TELECOM Digest Editor) I have been using Google Maps when I wanted to locate places, etc but when my brother was here over the holiday weekend he turned me on to a _really neat_ service from a company called 'Keyhole', which I have been told is being / has been acquired by Google. It consists of streaming realtime video captured by satellites as they fly around everywhere. I did not have the luck yet with it my brother had, but get this: he put in his home address and zip code; we see the 'satellite' flying through the sky, closing in on _your house_ (or whatever address you choose) and by changing the camera's 'zoom' and its 'tilt' I actually saw a close up of his front door and a car on the street in front of his house. I am still learning how to set the focus, zoom and tilt controls, so I did not as of yet have a lot of luck with my house, but I did do pretty well focusing in on the Arco Building downtown; the tallest building in our town is six stories. You want to go to a different location, anywhere in the world ... no problem; just tell the program the zip or post code desired, addresses as known, and we see the 'satellite' zoom off a few miles into space. with camera still running; when it reaches the new destination, the focus/zoom/tilt changes to the default values and you work on it from there. Two caveats: You have to load the software you get on line from 'Keyhole', the software is specific to your _Windows_ 9x or XP machine, and you must have certain Direct X drivers installed. Also, you have to set the screen size to at least 1024x768 I think. The installation got a little bit technical for me, and I am not sure yet I have the best versions of Direct X installed. It also helps if you have a very fast internet connection. Well, you can look up 'Keyhole' on Google, and read through the detailed instructions for installation and operation. The instructions say if you do not have the right Direct X or the proper size and resolution you will only get 'black objects' on your screen (where the house or whatever should be). Another caveat: _its not free_ . The version called Keyhole PRO costs several hundred dollars, but the more limited version for home use is about forty or fifty dollars, and you don't own it, you 'license' it, but anyone can have a 'license' who has a credit card and enough credit to pay out the forty or fifty dollars. I accidentally downloaded the 'Keyhole PRO' version first; it scolded me and said "this is the version for use in companies, etc _do you really want that much_?" So I backed out of the installation and chose 'Keyhole LT' instead. You get a free trial period but during that time, a message is stamped across the .jpg image output saying 'trial demo version' or something to that effect. These are just one time fees, not recurring or anything like that. There is also a nag screen each time you log in, asking 'do you want to buy it now?' I just click 'continue' and go on with my testing of addresses, etc. I would really recommend you try it first, some of the camera controls get very tricky and take very nimble fingers to correctly operate; there are 'pan' and 'tilt' and 'focus', and arrows to drag around on the screen image, which move your view to wherever. But it seems quite an improvement over the satellite images Google has been using for their 'maps' feature, being able to see the front door of your house and your car on the street in front of the house. The 'pan/zoom' control for example allows you to be twenty or so miles out in space and close in to as little as 35 feet away from the object under scrutiny if you wish (as long as you know how to properly focus the camera, etc.) They also have a BBS for questions and answers from the experts who know about those thing better than I. If you decide to try it (either for the free trial period or you actually spring for the forty or fifty dollars to buy your 'license' to ride in the satellite with your camera, let me know how you like it. I am finding it very interesting, although difficult for a diseased brain to comprehend. I have to stick to looking at giant skycrapers in Chicago right now. Oh, and any image you find that you like, you can 'bookmark' it and go back to it without having to always re-adjust the camera controls. Patrick Townson ------------------------------ From: Julian Thomas <blackhole@jt-mj.net> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:01:52 -0400 Subject: Octothorpe In <20050531063359.8A8A014FF2@massis.lcs.mit.edu>, on 05/31/05 at 02:33 AM, editor@telecom-digest.org typed: > The symbol will be known as the square or the most commonly used > > equivalent term in other languages.* >> *... alternate term (e.g. "number sign") may be necessary... >> I suppose it's useful to have a translatable term. That approach >> worked for "star", but it seems to have failed here. Does anyone refer >> to '#' as a "square"? Anywhere? Enquiring minds want to know ... > British Telecom likes to call it "square," and uses the term in many > system prompts, e.g. "Dial the telephone number followed by > square." IBM card punch codes (commercial set) had a character that was a square (with somewhat squashed sides) that evolved, IIRC into the current # code, so there is some precedent for this. Julian Thomas: jt@jt-mj.net http://jt-mj.net In the beautiful Finger Lakes Wine Country of New York State! Warpstock 2005: Hershey, Pa. October 6-9, 2005 - http://www.warpstock.org Why is it that those who drive slower than you are idiots and those that drive faster are maniacs? --George Carlin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:46:45 -0600 From: K&S OBrien <ksobrien@pcisys.net> Subject: RSS Feed Pat: I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate the "atom.xml" RSS feed. I am using it with Mozilla Thunderbird, and it really works well. Thanks to you and all those who worked on it. Regards, Steve O'Brien Denver, CO [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, the bright idea came from Lisa Minter who found a lot of them as she goes around the net to news sites. Then a group of good netizens who are always putting out free samples on the net for people to use said "since telecom is using so many RSS feeds on its 'td-extra' pages, how about supplying your feed for others to use?" So I thought about that and one of my technical helpers in Canada whipped it up using perl and whatever. So, you are quite welcome. Anyone who has not yet tried it may like to check it out at http://telecom-digest.org/rss.html . Take the feed supplied there for your own RSS reader, or use one of the syndicated sites with web-style readers (I give two examples on that page.) PAT] ------------------------------ From: distribution@eworldwire.com Date: 31 May 2005 16:48:41 -0400 Subject: Fiserv Buys MyCOOP Continuity Planning Software Fiserv Buys MyCOOP Continuity Planning Software RESTON, Va./EWORLDWIRE/May 31, 2005 --- COOP Systems today announced that myCOOP(TM), its ground-breaking continuity planning software, was recently installed successfully at Fiserv Technology Services, a business unit of the largest provider of information technology services to the U.S. financial services industry. "Fiserv Technology Services is our most prestigious financial services customer to date. After its extensive investigation of alternative olutions, we are gratified that such a large and sophisticated company selected myCOOP," said Chris Alvord, CEO of COOP Systems. "This implementation supports that our vision of easy-to-use, low cost, Web-enabled continuity planning software works for any size and complexity of organization." "We are very pleased with our decision," said Mary Lou Michael of Fiserv Technology Services. "As expected, myCOOP(TM) has very powerful tools to deploy rapidly, to quickly use work already done and to be easily used by our continuity planners and contributors. We look forward to expanding the use of myCOOP(TM) throughout the Fiserv enterprise." ABOUT COOP SYSTEMS - - Web-Based Continuity Planning(TM) COOP Systems (www.coop-systems.com), headquartered in Herndon, Va., is an exciting new provider of continuity planning software. With a special focus on large clients with distributed planning needs, increasing numbers of innovative private and public sector clients are deciding for myCOOP(TM). ABOUT FISERV Fiserv, Inc. (Nasdaq:FISV) provides information management systems and services to the financial and health benefits industries, including transaction processing, outsourcing, business process outsourcing and software and systems solutions. The company serves more than 16,000 clients worldwide, including banks, credit unions, financial planners/investment advisers, insurance companies and agents, self-insured employers, and lenders and savings institutions. Headquartered in Brookfield, Wis., Fiserv reported $3.4 billion in processing and services revenues for 2004. Fiserv was ranked the largest provider of information technology services to the U.S. financial services industry in the 2004 FinTech 100 survey by the American Banker newspaper and the Financial Insights research firm. Fiserv can be found on the Internet at www.fiserv.com. HTML: http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/wr/053105/12068.htm PDF: http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/pdf/053105/12068.pdf ONLINE NEWSROOM: http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/1038.htm LOGO: http://newsroom.eworldwire.com/1038.htm CONTACT: Vicki Alvord COOP Systems 607 Herndon Parkway Suite 108 Reston, VA 20170 PHONE. 703-464-8700 FAX. 703-464-9683 EMAIL: inquiry@coop-systems.com http://www.coop-systems.com Copyright 2004 Eworldwire, All rights reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:00:28 +0100 From: Paul Coxwell <paulcoxwell@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: 25 cps Power, was: Tie Lines was Re: Foreign Exchange Lines > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One of my earliest terminal monitors > was the H-19 from Heathkit (also known as Z-19 if you bought it > already put together from Zenith. There as a little switch on the > back which allowed you to 'default into' 50/60 cps, and you could also > switch between 50/60 cps mode using keystrokes. PAT] I have a couple of H-89/90 CP/M systems stashed away in a cupboard. If I recall correctly, the terminal section within these is identical to the H/Z-19. ------------------------------ From: Wesrock@aol.com Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:19:29 EDT Subject: Re: 25 cps Power, was: Tie Lines was Re: Foreign Exchange Lines In a message dated Tue, 31 May 2005 13:10:19 UTC, Pat writes: > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Right you are, I do not have any prize > for you, however. The AT&SF railroad _originally_ ran between > Atichson, Kansas, through Topeka, Kansas and southwestward on to Santa > Fe, New Mexico. Then, as Chicago became the railroad capitol of > America (start of 20th century) the AT&SF continued pushing eastward, > making its new terminus at Dearborn Station in Chicago, and relocating > its headquarters in the 'Santa Fe Building' at Jackson Blvd. and > Michigan Avenue in downtown Chicago. I hear your question now: ... Many of the headquarters functions remained in Topeka. The Ottawa cut-off took Topeka off the main line. Even before that, the line from Atchison to Topeka was of much reduced importance, and the railroad had been extended to Kansas City. The Santa Fe, originally a Kansas promotion, did not terminate in Santa Fe and but built on to Albuquerque and Los Angeles. Santa Fe was served by a branch line. The reason the Santa Fe's line between Kansas City and Chicago is the lowest-mileage route and the most nearly direct is because it was built as a line to connect Kansas City and the rest of the system with Chicago, not especially to serve local points between. Wes Leatherock wesrock@aol.com wleathus@yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) Subject: Re: 25 cps Power, was: Tie Lines was Re: Foreign Exchange Lines Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 02:06:56 -0000 Organization: Widgets, Inc. In article <telecom24.241.5@telecom-digest.org>, Joe Morris <jcmorris@mitre.org> wrote: > Wesrock@aol.com writes: >> Danny Burstein <dannyb@panix.com> writes: >> (Fred Harvey and the Santa Fe Railroad were associated from some time >> in the late 1800s.) >> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Remember also the "Harvey Girls" who >> were like 'stewardesses' on the Santa Fe trains and the 1940's movie >> about the Harvey Girls, and they were always singing that song about >> the railroad ... how did it go? Something about " ... my day, and the >> Atchison, Topeka and the Santa Fe ..." > Tying this (barely) into the thread currently running about WU clocks, > part of the lyrics went: > See the old smoke risin' 'round the bend, > I reckon that she knows she's gonna meet a friend, > Folks around these parts get the time of day, > From the Atchison, Topeka, and the Santa Fe. > Joe Morris > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Right you are, I do not have any prize > for you, however. The AT&SF railroad _originally_ ran between > Atichson, Kansas, through Topeka, Kansas and southwestward on to Santa > Fe, New Mexico. Then, as Chicago became the railroad capitol of > America (start of 20th century) the AT&SF continued pushing eastward, > making its new terminus at Dearborn Station in Chicago, and relocating > its headquarters in the 'Santa Fe Building' at Jackson Blvd. and > Michigan Avenue in downtown Chicago. I hear your question now: ... > ... *what was/is 'Dearborn Station'?* Well, along with Union Station > (Canal Street and Madison) which still exists and is now the terminus > for most intercity railroad traffic, there were Dearborn Station > (Dearborn and Harrison Streets), Grand Central Station, (Baltimore & > Ohio RR, Chesapeake RR's and others at Harrison and Wells Streets), > Central Station (Illinois Central RR at Michigan and Roosevelt Road), > LaSalle Street Station (various lines, LaSalle and Van Buren Streets) > Northwestern Station (Canal and Randolph Streets) and others. All are > gone, except for Northwestern Station and Union Station, and the > various railroads still offering passenger service all merged their > depots/terminals into one of those two locations. "Not exactly" applies. La Salle station (as the name at least), a rebuilt, greatly reduced facility, still exists, and has commuter service (only) running out of it. Tracks terminate a bit south of Congress Ave. 'Central Station' also nominally still exists; in use by electrified inter-urban (Illinois & South Shore Rwy) to Gary-Hammond. All long-distance passenger rail (AMTRAK) is out of Union station, With commuter rail out of Union and Northwestern stations, as well as the aforementioned La Salle and Central stations. [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Begging pardon, sir. I was talking about _inter-city_ rail traffic, not a commuter line. Furthermore, the physical platform approximatly at Roosevelt and Michigan Avenue is known by the suburban trains -- the only ones going through there now -- as 'Roosevelt Road', not as 'Central Station'. The Central Station building was torn down several years ago. PAT] ------------------------------ From: Ben Bass <benbass@verizon.net> Subject: Re: 25 Hz Power Re: Tie Lines was Re: Foreign Exchange Lines Organization: Bass Electronics Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:37:08 GMT Howard S. Wharton wrote: > I believe the power lines from the falls crossing over from Canada to > the US by the Peace Bridge is still 25 cycles. Who in Buffalo is still > using it, I don't know. Niagara Mohawk ceased production of 25 cycle when the Schoellkopf Power Station, predecessor to the Niagara Power project, literally fell into the Niagara gorge. That was June 7,1956. Three - 70,000 horsepower and three - 32,500 horsepower generators, mostly 25 cycle were dumped into the Niagara River. It was more cost-effective, due to the relatively low demand, to buy 25 Hz from Canadian Niagara than to build facilities to produce it. As of five years ago, Niagara Mohawk was still buying 25 Hz power from Canada and maintained a distribution grid in Buffalo. The NY Public Service Commission was allowing them to phase out the offering of 25 Hz. They were allowed to divide any costs associated with offering and maintaining 25 Hz service among the handful of remaining users. This was to be a disincentive to continued use of 25 cycle. They were also offering incentives for the users to retrofit their equipment to operate on 60 Hz. I was working for a company that still had 25 Hz elevators and an ancient meter and panel. I was attending meetings with Niagara Mohawk to negotiate incentives to change to 60 Hz. Again, this is 5 years ago. At the time there were a couple of scrap dealers, several businesses with 25 Hz elevators, a large frozen food facility, and a major producer of cereal products still using 25 Hz. ------------------------------ From: Steven Lichter <shlichter@diespammers.com> Reply-To: Die@spammers.com Organization: I Kill Spammers, Inc. (c) 2005 A Rot in Hell Co. Subject: Re: Do Not do Business With Sprint PCS ! Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 23:33:49 GMT Tim@Backhome.org wrote: > You could very well have the same, or similar, experience with any of > the wireless carriers. The contract is really for service, not the > phone. Sometimes we have to accept that, as consumers, we make bad > choices as to the equipment we decide to buy. You could replace the > phone with one that works, stay on the account, and sue them in small > claims court over the defective equipment (as opposed to the wireless > service). > pierreberto@yahoo.fr wrote: >> I went to the same company-owned store I bought my Sanyo 7400 from a >> couple of months ago, starting a new two-year contract. The earpiece >> got progressively worse in sound-quality, as for me to hardly >> understand the conversation. I asked for a replacement or repair. >> After they looked at it, they said no, as there was "nothing wrong >> with the phone." There sure was, with the sound quality absolutely >> terrible. While waiting for my phone, I tested other Sanyo phones in >> the store. Many sounded bad too, my mine sounded the worst. The >> phone in its present condition is worthless to me. So I call up >> Sprint directly. They said they couldn't help me. So I said fine, >> just cancel the account, refund the purchase price for my phone after >> the $150 rebate they sent me (I offered to send the phone back to >> them), and don't charge me a $150 early termination fee, since they're >> not honoring their warranty or conditions to my contract, since I have >> a phone I can't call from and can't do a thing with. They refused, >> even after talking to two supervisors. I've been a customer of them >> for four years, but it took four years for me to suddenly figure out >> what an unethical company Sprint is. They're awful. Avoid them at >> all costs! Last month my ear piece jack went out, the phone was less then a year old and I do carry the replacement insurance on it, but in my case it made no difference. They replaced my phone no questions asked, the tech reprogrammed my phone directory; which they do, but he also moved all my ring tones and other stuff from the phones browser. I had little trouble with them when the phones went bad, but moved when the merger went through because I had had major problems with GTE Moblenet, and at the time I was with GTE California. I got so made at them, I told the rep I was talking to, I wanted to speak to the President of the company, what was strange is they transfered me and was talking to him. I told him my problem and he fixed it, but I still dumped the service. The only good spammer is a dead one!! Have you hunted one down today? (c) 2005 I Kill Spammers, Inc. A Rot in Hell Co. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:52:01 +0100 From: Paul Coxwell <paulcoxwell@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: What Happened to Channel 1 > Crystal Palace also used vertical polarization while Divis used > vertical. Oops! I meant to say that Divis used HORIZONTAL polarization. - Paul ------------------------------ From: Isaiah Beard <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com> Subject: Re: Will My Cingular SIM Card Work in Another Brand of Phone? Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:44:06 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com rockstarr0105@gmail.com wrote: > I Dropped my Cingular Motorola V220 in water ... OOps! Will the > Cingular sim card work in a Nokia or other type of Motorola? Please > Help!!! Any unlocked GSM phone (or Cingular-locked GSM phone for that matter) should work with your SIM. By "locked," I mean that most US cellular companies sell phones that are configured to work ONLY on their network. The reason is that often, they have sold the phone to the customer at a loss, and to recoup that loss, they lock the phone to guarantee that they get all the revenue from using that phone. An "unlocked" GSM phone doesn't have this restriction, and will work with any GSM network, with any valid SIM. But generally, they're not cheap. Hopefully your SIM wasn't water damaged! E-mail fudged to thwart spammers. Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Schools Prohibit Personal E-mail Sites From: tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) Organization: AT&T Worldnet Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:28:00 GMT > With little warning, the school system this spring started banning > access to personal e-mail accounts in all schools because some > students recently used school computers to e-mail threats, hit lists, > and pornography to other students and teachers, school officials say. Gee. Shouldn't they also ban all other forms of communication? I'd think any media could be used for the same offensive stuff and trigger the same lawsuits. 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